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America PAC 타운 홀 이벤트에서 나온, 선거 무결성에 대한 Musk의 발언

https://www.rev.com/transcripts/musk-speaks-at-town-hall-in-pennsylvania

 

Elon Musk (00:04):

Wow, this is amazingly great energy. Thank you for coming. So I’m holding my phone. We’re doing sort of a live Spaces as well as a video cast. I’m holding my phone for that reason. If you see me [inaudible 00:00:22], why is he holding his phone? We’re doing a live X spaces at the same time as a video stream. So I’ll be able to take some questions from obviously, as many questions as possible from the audience and as well from people online. But as you can see, I’m obviously here in person. This is me not a clone of me. And the reason I’m here in person is because Pennsylvania is so important to the future of the world, so. You show what matters by your actions, not your words. And my actions are I’m here, I’m in Pennsylvania, and I’m here for a very important reason, which yeah, which is I can’t emphasize enough that Pennsylvania is, I think the linchpin in this election. And this election, I think is going to decide the fate of America and along with the fate of America, the fate of Western civilization.

(01:34)
And I think the things we all want are simple, sensible, I think common sense things. We obviously want, we want secure borders. We want safe cities, sensible spending so that we don’t have crazy inflation, we want freedom of speech, we want the Constitution to be upheld. And you know what? I’m being told at times that these are right-wing values. I’m like, are you insane? There’s literally the fundamental values that made America what it is today. And anyone who is against those things is fundamentally anti-American and the hell with them. Yeah. Yeah.

(02:45)
I see I’m getting a lot of agreement from everyone in this room. Yeah. So I actually lived in Pennsylvania for three years by the way. I’m no stranger to the state. I lived in the city for three years. I went to school here, so I know the state. I’m not some just arrived situation here. I’ve been here, spent three years of my life here. So it’s a great state. Love it. And yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. But the thing is, I was talking to friends of mine who, like when I went to Penn, it was very dangerous at the time, but everyone thought it would get better as the years went on.

(03:37)
One of the issues was students would get killed from time to time, and that was pretty bad, obviously. And I was talking to someone who recently graduated from Penn. They said, “Actually, it’s worse.” And I’m like, “It’s worse?” What the hell is going on? It’s like, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, the reality is that if someone is a violent criminal where they either are unable to control their violence or they like it, if you do not incarcerate them, they will hurt people. That’s what it comes down to. So if you don’t put hardened criminals in jail, they will kill people. But that’s what it comes down to. And that’s unfortunately the situation we have here is that the Democratic Party will not put hardened criminals in prison. And so they roam free and they prey upon you and your kids and your family and your friends. This is insane. How can we be the most powerful country in the world and it’s not safe to walk around our cities? What the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 (04:55):

George Soros.

Elon Musk (04:56):

Yeah. I mean, Soros misanthropic. For someone who sort of claims to be doing good, but actually he is not. He is tearing down the work of society. So terrible.

Speaker 1 (05:17):

Evil.

Elon Musk (05:19):

Yeah, so but I think it’s just unbelievable that, like you should be able to feel safe walking around American cities. And it’s not just, Philadelphia has a challenge, New York has a challenge, every major city in the US. My mom lives in New York, for example. Three of her friends have been assaulted on the street this year, and it’s getting worse. And now when she takes her dog for a walk, she has to stay inside of the building so she can call for help if need be. This is not the future we want. And if we get four more years of this, I mean, we’re going to be fully Mad Max. It’s like well, it’s nice to watch a Mad Max movie, but we don’t want to be in the Mad Max movie. Okay.

(06:25)
So yeah. And then the whole border thing is just insane. I always want to try to figure out what is the truth of the matter, what’s really going on? So on the border situation, it’s like, is it real or is it not real? So I went there in person and I just literally live-streamed what I saw. And our border looks like World War Z. Okay. It’s like Zombie Apocalypse. It’s insane. So this is, if you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country border. Yeah, I mean, we’re just saying we have to have real borders. And or if you don’t have real borders, you don’t have real country.

(07:09)
And obviously as someone who’s an immigrant, I’m pro immigrant. I just want to make sure that people come here, are going to be asked to society, and that they’re going to raise our standard living. I think the sort of sports team analogy is a good one. So let’s say your pro sports team, you want to win the championship. Then well, you want ACEs on your team obviously because they help the whole team win. So the same is true for immigration. If we have this sort of equivalent of Kobe Bryant or Steph Curry or LeBron or something like that, they want to join the team. Absolutely. Of course. Do you like winning? Yeah. Okay. But if they can’t play basketball, they shouldn’t be joining.

(08:02)
So that’s real important. And yeah, and then something that doesn’t get a lot of attention is the fact that the federal government is spending America into bankruptcy, which is crazy. It’s sort of, and that’s really what leads to inflation, is that when the government spends more than it brings in, that’s what causes inflation. Yeah. It’s just a pernicious tax. So there has to be much, we have to radically reduce the amount of government spending so that we don’t rack up a debt that is impossible to repay and drive the country to bankruptcy. So I mean, just basic stuff really. They shouldn’t be controversial topics. So it’s just like normal, common sense. Exactly. And you’re seeing all these attacks on freedom of speech, and they’re attacking me for freedom. It’s like, yo, that’s the First Amendment. Literally the first one.

(09:16)
Tells me it’s a high priority. And the reason they had the First Amendment was because the countries people came from, if you spoke your mind, you’d be imprisoned or killed. That’s why you have it. That’s really important. And then the right to bear arms is also really important. That’s there to protect. I mean, the Second Amendment is there to protect the First Amendment, so. As soon as the government can disarm the people, they can do anything they want. And we’ve seen this in one country after another. They take the guns away from their people, then they do fake elections, and then the people try to protest and they just get shot. That’s what happened in Venezuela recently. They had a fake election. Maduro lost, massively lost, like 70% loss. And he is like, “Oh no, I won.” And everyone’s like, “No, you didn’t win.” There were big protests in the street.

(10:25)
But the thing is that Chavez, when he came into power, took away everyone’s guns. So now you’re facing soldiers with assault rifles. What, you’re going to throw some sticks at them or something, use finger guns? It doesn’t work. So Maduro, even though he lost the election, is still in power. And that’s the kind of risk that we face, so. But we got to do everything possible to protect the Constitution. And I think this is, yeah. So for all those reasons, that’s why after thinking about it hard, it was very clear to me that Donald Trump has to win this election. It really does. Yeah. And so I think the most important thing that you can do, and what I’m asking everyone to do is make sure that you’re registered to vote and then vote early, and then talk to your friends and family and everyone you know to make sure that they’re registered to vote. Because Monday is the deadline for voting registration. And honestly, if there’s ever a time to be a pest with your friends and family, this is the time. Just, yeah. This is the time. Everyone you know, everyone you meet, everyone you run into, register them to vote, and then get them to vote immediately. And we only have until Monday night to register to vote. So the next basically three days are essential. And I think we see that the selection decided in Pennsylvania by, it could be 10, 000 votes, it could be 1000 votes, it could be 10 votes, it could be some very tiny number. So every incremental person is a huge difference. So I haven’t been politically active before. I’m politically active now because I think the future of America and the future of civilization is at stake,

Elon Musk (13:03):

So yeah, please go all out registering people. We got three days. Let’s go. Anything you could possibly do. So with that, I’m happy to answer questions or take comments from the audience.

Speaker 3 (13:17):

[inaudible 00:13:21].

Elon Musk (13:22):

Thank you.

Speaker 3 (13:22):

We’ll form a line. I have the mic. We’ll do one question per person. Okay?

Speaker 2 (13:36):

Yeah, I have the mic.

Elon Musk (13:50):

All right.

Speaker 2 (13:51):

Elon, first of all, welcome to Ridley Township.

Elon Musk (13:53):

Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:55):

Delaware County. Welcome to Ridley School District and our beautiful high school. Because you made this your first stop, we’d love to make you an honorary Ridley Raider.

Elon Musk (14:08):

Thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:08):

I’d like to give you this football jersey. Sports is big in Ridley, big in Delaware County. This is must. 67 counties in Pennsylvania. We got to turn every one of them red.

Elon Musk (14:22):

Great. Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (14:38):

First question is what can all of us here, everybody in this auditorium, everybody watching the live stream, what can we do now to make sure we get Donald Trump across the finish line in Pennsylvania and everywhere else in this country?

Elon Musk (14:53):

Yeah, it’s fundamentally for the next three days, just everyone needs to focus on registering friends, family, acquaintances, everyone you know. Because if you’re not registered by Monday, that’s why I’m being repetitive about this and really emphasizing this, anyone not registered by Monday evening or if they’re registered incorrectly, the vote won’t count. They won’t be able to vote. So we got three days. It’s all about registration, registration, registration, registration every single day. Like I said, this election could be decided by a handful of people. It could just be that little bit of extra effort on voter registration decides the entire future of civilization. So that’s why I’m saying, man, if there’s ever a weekend to spend going hog wild on registration, this is it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:48):

Hi, Elon. Thank you so much for being here. It means so much and I think it is really in line with your character as I’ve come to know you from listening to you speak in interviews. In addition to voting for Donald Trump, what can the average citizen do to help train AI to be truth-seeking?

Elon Musk (16:12):

Well, I think definitely publicly pushing to ensure that AI is truth-seeking and is not politically correct, which means factually incorrect. That’s a big deal. Just speak out on social media. Certainly complain loudly when other companies attempt to essentially program their AI with a dystopian San Francisco-Berkeley philosophy. If you want to know where that philosophy leads, just walk around the streets of San Francisco. But be careful because do not get killed by a violent drug zombie because they’re all over downtown SF. It’s insane. So we can see where does that philosophy lead, and unfortunately, I think a lot of the AIs are being programmed at least implicitly with that misanthropic dystopian philosophy.

Jasmine (17:16):

Hi, Elon. Right here on your right.

Elon Musk (17:22):

Sorry. I saw the lights in my eyes and stuff. It’s hard to see.

Jasmine (17:25):

Hi, my name is Jasmine. I’m originally from Malaysia and I’ve been here 20 years. I came here legally. I see a lot of immigration and a lot of immigrants who came here legally. They all support Trump and they want a strong economy. They want family values and all that. By the way, I came here because my daughter goes to school here. She told me to come over. I used to be really, really active in promoting Trump campaign four years ago, and I got burned out. I’m so frustrated and it’s all because of the cheating. So what are we going to do with that?

Elon Musk (18:13):

Well, there is I think some amount of cheating that takes place. It’s hard because when you have mail-in ballots and no proof of citizenship, it becomes almost impossible to prove cheating is the issue. So a lot of people on the Dem side will say, there’s no cheating, there’s no cheating. I’m like, you’ve made it impossible to actually prove that there’s cheating. But statistically, there are some very strange things that happen that are statistically incredibly unlikely. So there’s always this question of say the Dominion voting machines. It is weird that I think they’re used in Philadelphia and in Maricopa County, but not in a lot of other places. Doesn’t that seem like a heck of a coincidence?

(19:07)
I think, in my view, we should only do paper ballots, hand counted. That’s it. I’m a technologist. I know a lot about computers. I’m like, the last thing I would do is trust a computer program because it is just too easy to hack. It’s too easy to add just one line, and it’s really difficult to hack paper ballots. So it’s voting with proof of with ID, which, by the way, every country has. Almost every country that has democratic elections requires in-person voting with voter ID. It’s super weird to not have that. I think that’s the only way to effectively address fraud.` Given that we are where we are today, I think we just need a very big margin of victory. If the margin of victory is big enough, then, as they say, it’s got to beat the cheat. So, that’s it.

Speaker 4 (20:36):

Elon, first off, you’re my hero and I love your sneakers.

Elon Musk (20:39):

Thank you.

Speaker 4 (20:40):

So if you do choose to be the head of the Department of Government Efficiency.

Elon Musk (20:47):

Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:48):

Yep. What do you think about we stop giving money to other countries such as Israel, Ukraine and we stopped funding forever wars that most likely is going to the deep state anyway?

Elon Musk (21:05):

Yeah. Well, I think in general the amount of waste that happens with the federal government is really staggering. It’s a staggering amount of waste of taxpayer money. For any given expenditure, we have to say, well, what does this do for the citizens of America? How is this good for the people of America? It’s their money. For some weird reason, a lot of people in the state or whatever, the politicians, they seem to forget that the money being spent is your money. If it’s not being spent in a way that is beneficial to the American people, it’s a misuse of the funds. So yeah, there’s a lot of money that’s being spent where illegals are getting more benefits than citizens. What the heck is that? That doesn’t make any sense.

Speaker 6 (22:02):

Hi, Elon. So as we bring government spending and look inward to our country, I am a government employee, I care about innovation and efficiency. With your vision for a department of government efficiency, what can we do? How can we support you? And also how can we spot the needs of people In North Carolina. The body count is abnormally under-reported. What can we do to press on that and to support people within our country?

Elon Musk (22:25):

Sure. Well, I do think that government efficiency is not something about reducing the size of government, but making sure that there are incentives for excellent work. So whatever you incent will happen. So if you have incentives for excellent work, and by the same token, if someone’s not doing excellent work, they’re exited. It’s just like normal. It’s really what happens in properly functioning company is that you reward. Or think of a sports team, the players that are doing well, they get rewarded, and the players that are not doing well, they exit the team. That should just be how it works.

(23:01)
I think that’ll have a profound effect on the effectiveness of government because whatever you incent will happen. So if the incentives are aligned with saving people in North Carolina, then that’s what’ll happen. But if you have a failed response to the disasters, to the hurricane disasters, and no one even gets fired, well, okay, what do you expect? No one’s going to take action. If there’s a track record of failure, you have to exit the people who failed. Otherwise, people will look around and say, well, I guess I don’t need to do anything because nothing bad happens to you even if you do a terrible job and people die, which is insane.

Speaker 7 (23:47):

Hi, Elon. Can you tell us about your trip to Israel?

Elon Musk (24:00):

Yeah, it was a very moving trip. So yeah, it was a very moving trip. Definitely one of the toughest regions to… What set of actions result in the greater good in Israel? Obviously, you cannot have people who, if they want to slaughter everyone in Israel, you got to stop that. There’s no way. Those people either need to be that they’re killed or incarcerated or they will simply try to kill more Israelis. This is what it amounts to, obviously. They want to kill Americans too, by the way.

(24:52)
Generally Israel is referred to as the little Satan in America, we are the big Satan. That’s what the Ayatollah calls us. So I think a lot of what’s happening there is people are being taught to hate in Gaza from when they’re children. They’re taught to hate. That’s really the thing that needs to stop for there to be long-term peace, hopefully, is that you just cannot have the kids be taught to hate from the moment they can talk. That’s fundamental. I think it’s a three-step process there, which is you mentioned one has to do the difficult thing, which is to-

Speaker 8 (25:53):

Eliminate the mosque.

Elon Musk (25:53):

Yes, eliminate a mosque. Exactly. Then

Elon Musk (26:02):

I think also going forward, anyone who’s teaching hatred in Gaza or elsewhere, they need to stop doing that. That can’t be acceptable.

Speaker 10 (26:13):

Either that or kids can’t be taught that.

Elon Musk (26:13):

And we have to stop kids being taught to hate America in America. And then the third thing that’s also very important is that there has to be economic prosperity in Gaza. So this is very difficult. After terrible things have been done, you then have to bring prosperity to Gaza. And that’s the thing that will ensure… Provided kids are not taught to hate and there’s long-term prosperity, I think there will be peace in Gaza. And we see an example of that after World War II, where with Germany and Japan, they were defeated, they obviously did terrible things, but changed the education system. And unlike World War I, we helped rebuild Japan and Germany. The Marshall Plan. Instead of exacting vengeance, America insisted we’re going to help rebuild Germany, we’re going to help rebuild Japan, and now they are allies and there’s been no war ever since.

Speaker 10 (27:40):

And I want to say congratulations on the successful re-docking of your project. Big deal. And I’m going to go-

Elon Musk (27:56):

Thanks. Yeah, I mean honestly, it was a great week. Yeah, we had a Tesla sort of cool autonomous car and robot stuff, which I think it’s going to be really, really great. Who wouldn’t want their own personal C3PO RD2D. It’d be awesome. So I think that we’re going to build some awesome helper robots and autonomous cars. This is a good day. Fate is smiling upon us here.

Speaker 9 (28:32):

We’re really happy for you.

Elon Musk (28:34):

Thank you. We caught the rocket, which is just totally nuts. That rocket booster, it’s the largest, heaviest flying object ever made, and it just got caught by Mechazilla arms, kind of like karate kid but bigger. Catch on the fly with chopsticks.

Speaker 10 (28:59):

So my question is, do you think there is a shadow government behind the Biden-Harris administration?

Elon Musk (29:08):

I mean, well, let me put it this way, it’s not Biden. We know that for a fact. Okay. The dudes barely got two functional neurons, and he just seems to be at the beach a lot and he’s obviously not in charge. So I mean, when the polls started going low on Biden, he was saying, oh, he’s staying in the race, he’s staying in the race, but then I guess the real powers that be told him he is not.

Speaker 10 (29:43):

So who is it that’s behind him? We know Obama. Okay, but Obama-

Speaker 9 (29:49):

He broke that.

Elon Musk (29:52):

I mean, I’m just as curious as you are.

Speaker 9 (29:53):

Black rock.

Elon Musk (29:58):

As far as I can determine, there isn’t any one sort of puppet master. It is more like there’s a thousand or a lot.

Speaker 9 (30:06):

[inaudible 00:30:08].

Elon Musk (30:09):

But I mean, I’d like to talk to them to understand more about, listen, what are your goals puppet masters? I’m just curious. Maybe I agree with some of them. It’s possible. But it’s just obvious that Biden’s not in charge. It’s obvious that Kamala’s not in charge. They just replaced the Biden puppet with the Kamala puppet very obviously. And so you can tell if the teleprompter stops working, then the puppet breaks and it’s like, oh, the puppet just starts looping because the teleprompter broke. I don’t have a teleprompter. I can just talk like a normal human. So I mean, yeah, I think from what I can tell, it’s not one puppet master, it’s many. But interesting to see the crossover between the Epstein client list and Kamala’s puppet masters. I bet there’s a lot of names that appear in both lists.

Gregory Stenstrom (31:15):

Oh, sorry.

Elon Musk (31:16):

Yeah, Diddy too.

Gregory Stenstrom (31:17):

Can you move it up a little higher, so I don’t have to bend?

Elon Musk (31:19):

Diddy did it.

Gregory Stenstrom (31:22):

Elon, my name is Gregory Stenstrom. I’m from here, Delaware County, a few people who know me. In my hands, you asked earlier you’d like to go to a hand count. We have three federal suits right now. One, because we know for a fact and we have proof that the election code in the machines in Dominion and Harden Pacific are fraudulent here, right here in Delaware County, the Secretary of State their elections, Jonathan Marks admitted this in court last week.

Elon Musk (31:55):

Wow. He did?

Gregory Stenstrom (31:56):

In court on a transcript.

Elon Musk (31:58):

I didn’t read about that. For some reason the-

Gregory Stenstrom (32:00):

Of course… How many people here know-

Elon Musk (32:03):

… legacy media forgot to report about that one.

Gregory Stenstrom (32:05):

How many people here know me? Quite a few.

Elon Musk (32:08):

I usually keep up with these things and I did not know that.

Gregory Stenstrom (32:11):

Well, we’re also co-defendants, Leah Hoopes and myself also from Delaware County, were co-defendants with President Trump, and Rudy Giuliani in a defamation suit where we proved over 952 days that there was massive election fraud in 2020. We proved that in court. It’s a matter of public record. We also have the proof that the election machines that are currently being used are fraudulent. We have videos right now that I can show you of ballot boxes being stuffed here in Delaware County, Montgomery County, Chester County, and across the state.

Elon Musk (32:44):

Okay.

Gregory Stenstrom (32:45):

We have that video. We have submitted this to the federal courts in three federal cases. We have a SCOTUS case right here. And the SCOTUS case is just simple, it asks the DOJ to rescind their policy not to investigate election fraud.

Elon Musk (33:00):

Which seems crazy.

Gregory Stenstrom (33:01):

We are being blocked.

Elon Musk (33:03):

Yeah, this DOJ is doing a great… I don’t know, just take the J out of the name. Department of Injustice.

Gregory Stenstrom (33:11):

What I’d like you to do, Elon, is I don’t want to take too much time, and I know this is kind of a shock, but we have a book here, The Parallel Election. I have a Supreme Court case, and I have the federal suits here. We’ve called your people. We’ve called the people who are supposed to be helping. We have hundreds of people right now ready. They’re out taking videos, they’re training poll workers, and we are not getting support from many of the people in the first front rows here. And their pictures, if you want to know who they are, are in this book.

Elon Musk (33:49):

What I recommend is to post content on the X platform, and then people can argue and say it’s right or wrong. And if you have videos or evidence, then post them publicly on social media and then people can-

Speaker 10 (34:12):

Judge for themselves.

Elon Musk (34:12):

Judge for themselves. Exactly.

Gregory Stenstrom (34:13):

They’re on to them.

Elon Musk (34:14):

Okay, great. Excellent. Thank you. Anyway, let’s not get contentious. I think teamwork makes the dream work here and whatever the situation, I don’t want to dissuade anyone from voting. It’s very important to vote. So any actions with respect to voting machines and whatnot, we certainly want to put them under intense scrutiny. But nonetheless, everyone needs to vote. And like I said, if you leave here with one thing, the goal is to register as many people as possible to vote. That is the goal, and we only have until Monday night. That is the goal. One mission, bam.

Speaker 11 (35:06):

Hi, Elon. Thank you for being here. First, I want to thank you as somebody with a spinal cord injury for being innovative because not many people are. I won’t take up the time, but 18,000 people a year are injured, so thank you.

Elon Musk (35:23):

Absolutely. And I’m hopeful that Neuralink can do a lot actually. Initially providing the ability for anyone who’s lost the brain-body connection to be able to interface with their phone and computer faster than a human with working hands, which is I think really cool. But down the road, I think it’ll be possible to restore a whole body functionality. If you have a Neuralink in the motor cortex that then shunts past where the neurons are damaged in the spine, I’m confident that longterm you can actually restore people’s ability to walk and use their hands.

Speaker 11 (36:02):

I appreciate it. I would love to work with you on getting support around here. But-

Elon Musk (36:12):

Yeah, and in fact, one of the things… And to be fair, the FDA has been, within the context of their current rules, has been actually quite supportive. They’ve given us sort of express lane because they’ve seen the quality of the work and the sophistication of the technology, that they have given us sort of fast- track approval. But still, our progress is limited by regulatory issues. And that’s the same thing that’s happening with SpaceX, is like SpaceX can build a giant rocket faster than the license can be processed by the government, which is insane.

(36:46)
So I should mention, one of the most fundamental things about me supporting, and maybe the biggest showstopper of all for me in terms of why I feel Donald Trump must win, is that we have to have sensible regulations. Last time I checked, we have 428 agencies. So there’s more than an agency a year has been created since America was a country. We’ve got almost twice as many agencies as years that America has been a country, there’s sometimes two new agencies per year created, which is just madness. So America is being smothered by over-regulation. It’s like, I call it slow strangulation by over-regulation.

Speaker 11 (37:40):

I would like to ask about natural gas and lithium. Pennsylvania is rich of natural resources and fracking gas and lithium, which could benefit not only our state, but our entire country. However, many residents, and I have to be honest, along 350 miles of Pennsylvania had real challenges like eminent domain and the destruction of water sources, such as what happened with the Mariner East pipeline. How can we ensure that while utilizing these resources, we work closely with local governments and residents without the federal government overreaching and forcing land from homeowners. Effective communication with citizens and their involvement in these decisions is crucial. What role do you see for technology or private industry and making sure that this process is transparent and fair? Because believe you me, lots of people were forced with eminent domain and aquifers poisoned all across Pennsylvania, including our veterans. And this has been a real problem since 2016. So we want to support our workers and use our gas, but we need to be careful of what we’re taking from people who’ve lived here, families for centuries.

Elon Musk (38:54):

Certainly. I mean, I believe in sensible regulation, but what I see happening

Elon Musk (39:00):

… happening is that there’s a mountain of rules that actually don’t benefit people, and then there’s missing rules that do benefit people. So it’s this bizarre Kafkaesque nightmare of regulations where ultimately the good of the people is not served. And we get regulatory delays for things that are fake. Meanwhile, bad things are allowed to happen simply because someone filled out the paper book and gamed the system. So that’s what I mean.

(39:31)
When I say the Department Of Government Efficiency, I mean addressing any issue which is not in the interest of the people. And we do need to, at times, fight against what large corporations are pushing for, because some of them are very short term, and some large corporations do bad things. Corporations are like people. Some people are good people. Some corporations are good. Some are sort of meddling. And sometimes some corporations are bad. And it’s just like people. That’s the way to think of corporations. So we’ve got to stop the corporations that want to do bad things. Make sure they’re doing things that are in the interest of the people. And then corporations that want to do good things, they shouldn’t be slowed down by smothering regulation.

Speaker 12 (40:20):

[inaudible 00:40:24]

Elon Musk (40:26):

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 12 (40:26):

[Inaudible 00:40:30].

Elon Musk (40:29):

Yeah. Yeah, and I think these things should be done very much in the open so people can understand what’s going on and nothing in the shadows. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Brad (40:47):

Hey, Elon. How are you? I’m Brad. These are two tough acts to follow here. But my question is a little more simple. What are some of the first courses of action you plan to take as a head of government efficiency if Trump gets elected? And do you have any areas of concern in particular?

Elon Musk (41:06):

Yeah, that’s a good question. I definitely… The focus right now is making sure that Trump wins the election. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter. And I think if Trump loses, we’re going to see our cities are going to get less safe. The borders are obviously going to be wide open. We’re going to see government spending go ballistic, inflation going nuts. It’s going to be just bad on every level. And fundamentally, if the current trend of strangulation by overregulation is not turned around, we’ll never get to Mars. It just will be illegal. And there won’t be a one-planet civilization. There won’t be a space-faring civilization. And Starfleet will never be real. And we want Starfleet to be real.

(42:04)
I’ve had quite a bit of interaction with the government because SpaceX is the biggest NASA contractor, actually. There’s a lot of work for NASA. And I’m a big fan of the agency, by the way. But there are expenditures that don’t make a lot of sense, that are wasteful. And we need to put a stop to that. Honestly, there’s so much government waste that’s going on that I would call it a target-rich environment. In every direction there’s just mad waste. And I think simply, if people simply know that, well, if they waste a ton of taxpayer money, they’re going to get fired, that will immediately improve the situation. Immediately. Yeah, it’s just literally…

(42:58)
But actually, it’s going to be both carrot and stick. It’s like, if a government official is very effective in spending your money… Taxpayer money is your money. If they’re effective in spending your money, they should be promoted. They should be rewarded. And if they waste your money, or do something that’s basically corruption, they should be fired obviously. They have a duty to spend your money well.

Speaker 13 (43:28):

Hey, Elon. As a veteran who was deployed because of [inaudible 00:43:32] What would you say to an administration and a candidacy that is spreading lies or disinformation about the troops that are currently in combat, my friends?

Elon Musk (43:42):

Yeah, can you believe that was said?

Speaker 13 (43:43):

[inaudible 00:43:43] and Hunter Biden’s laptop presence declined, and so on.

Elon Musk (43:46):

Yeah, I mean, during the Trump-Kamala debate, she said there was no active-duty soldiers out there. I’m like, I know a whole bunch of them. What are you talking about? That’s a shameful, terrible lie. And she wasn’t even fact-checked. And I’m like, are you kidding? [inaudible 00:44:12] I mean, yeah, thank you. Thank you.

(44:19)
Yeah, and I’d just like to say, for the Americans out there who are serving in dangerous places right now, unlike what Kamala said, thank you for your service to the country.

Speaker 14 (44:46):

Elon, thank you for stepping up to help America when you don’t have to. You could be on an island right now.

Elon Musk (44:58):

Yeah. Yeah, I could be-

Speaker 15 (45:02):

He doesn’t seem to miss it [inaudible 00:45:07].

Elon Musk (45:08):

Yeah, I have a lot of jobs. No, it’s true. I mean, there are a lot of people I know who are on a yacht, sipping a Mai Tai or whatever, on an island. That is a thing I could be doing, but I can’t do that if I think the future of civilization is at stake, which I do.

Speaker 16 (45:33):

My question for you, I guess, one, do you know Alberto Cangahuala? He’s the system manager for Europa Clipper-

Elon Musk (45:50):

Oh, that’s a cool mission, by the way.

Speaker 16 (45:53):

Which you sent into space on Monday?

Elon Musk (45:55):

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 (45:55):

Thank you very much.

Elon Musk (45:56):

Absolutely. In fact, that was a mission where I talked to the SpaceX team. It’s like, every mission’s important, but this mission’s extra important. Like you, I think most people, I want a future where you look forward to it and you’re excited about what’s going to happen, that we’re going to learn new things, that we’re going to… It’s going to be better than the past. And a future where we’re a spacefaring civilization, and we’re out there among the stars, where Star Trek is real. That’s exciting. Life can’t just be about solving one problem after another. There have to be things that inspire you, that move your heart.

Speaker 17 (46:44):

Build a warp drive.

Elon Musk (46:44):

Yeah, that’s a hard one to build, but at some point we should build a warp drive. But even without the warp drive, the Starship, the rocket made by SpaceX, is capable of building a city on Mars and a city on the Moon. That’s what it’s designed to do. But we’re being massively slowed down by regulatory molasses. And I’ll tell you a crazy thing, we got fined $140,000 during launch. We’re going to cool the launchpad so it doesn’t overheat. And in excess of caution, we actually brought in drinking water, so super clean water. And the FAA said, no, you have to [inaudible 00:47:36] falls all the time. That is the same as the water that we used. There’s lots of sky water. And they’re not going to process any of our future applications. So this is the kind of crazy stuff we’re dealing with. [inaudible 00:47:53] Yeah.

Sarah (47:56):

Hi, Elon. My name is Sarah. I’m from Philadelphia. I have a whole team here. First of all, I am really excited about your [inaudible 00:48:07]. I would sincerely like to accept our proposal. And we want to have some further discussion with Trump to take our country back.

Elon Musk (48:23):

Well, thank you. Sure. Thanks.

 

America PAC 타운 홀 이벤트 전체 트랜스크립트 (Elon Musk Pennsylvania Town Hall, 2024년 10월 17일)

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영어 원문 (English Transcript)

Elon Musk ([00:04]): Wow, this is amazingly great energy. Thank you for coming. So I’m holding my phone. We’re doing sort of a live Spaces as well as a video cast. I’m holding my phone for that reason. If you see me [inaudible 00:00:22], why is he holding his phone? We’re doing a live X spaces at the same time as a video stream. So I’ll be able to take some questions from obviously, as many questions as possible from the audience and as well from people online. But as you can see, I’m obviously here in person. This is me not a clone of me. And the reason I’m here in person is because Pennsylvania is so important to the future of the world, so. You show what matters by your actions, not your words. And my actions are I’m here, I’m in Pennsylvania, and I’m here for a very important reason, which yeah, which is I can’t emphasize enough that Pennsylvania is, I think the linchpin in this election. And this election, I think is going to decide the fate of America and along with the fate of America, the fate of Western civilization.

([01:34])

And I think the things we all want are simple, sensible, I think common sense things. We obviously want, we want secure borders. We want safe cities, sensible spending so that we don’t have crazy inflation, we want freedom of speech, we want the Constitution to be upheld. And you know what? I’m being told at times that these are right-wing values. I’m like, are you insane? There’s literally the fundamental values that made America what it is today. And anyone who is against those things is fundamentally anti-American and the hell with them. Yeah. Yeah.

([02:45])

I see I’m getting a lot of agreement from everyone in this room. Yeah. So I actually lived in Pennsylvania for three years by the way. I’m no stranger to the state. I lived in the city for three years. I went to school here, so I know the state. I’m not some just arrived situation here. I’ve been here, spent three years of my life here. So it’s a great state. Love it. And yeah. Yeah, it was awesome. But the thing is, I was talking to friends of mine who, like when I went to Penn, it was very dangerous at the time, but everyone thought it would get better as the years went on.

([03:37])

One of the issues was students would get killed from time to time, and that was pretty bad, obviously. And I was talking to someone who recently graduated from Penn. They said, “Actually, it’s worse.” And I’m like, “It’s worse?” What the hell is going on? It’s like, yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, the reality is that if someone is a violent criminal where they either are unable to control their violence or they like it, if you do not incarcerate them, they will hurt people. That’s what it comes down to. So if you don’t put hardened criminals in jail, they will kill people. But that’s what it comes down to. And that’s unfortunately the situation we have here is that the Democratic Party will not put hardened criminals in prison. And so they roam free and they prey upon you and your kids and your family and your friends. This is insane. How can we be the most powerful country in the world and it’s not safe to walk around our cities? What the hell is going on?

Speaker 1 ([04:55]): George Soros.

Elon Musk ([04:56]): Yeah. I mean, Soros misanthropic. For someone who sort of claims to be doing good, but actually he is not. He is tearing down the work of society. So terrible.

Speaker 1 ([05:17]): Evil.

Elon Musk ([05:19]): Yeah, so but I think it’s just unbelievable that, like you should be able to feel safe walking around American cities. And it’s not just, Philadelphia has a challenge, New York has a challenge, every major city in the US. My mom lives in New York, for example. Three of her friends have been assaulted on the street this year, and it’s getting worse. And now when she takes her dog for a walk, she has to stay inside of the building so she can call for help if need be. This is not the future we want. And if we get four more years of this, I mean, we’re going to be fully Mad Max. It’s like well, it’s nice to watch a Mad Max movie, but we don’t want to be in the Mad Max movie. Okay.

([06:25])

So yeah. And then the whole border thing is just insane. I always want to try to figure out what is the truth of the matter, what’s really going on? So on the border situation, it’s like, is it real or is it not real? So I went there in person and I just literally live-streamed what I saw. And our border looks like World War Z. Okay. It’s like Zombie Apocalypse. It’s insane. So this is, if you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country border. Yeah, I mean, we’re just saying we have to have real borders. And or if you don’t have real borders, you don’t have real country.

([07:09])

And obviously as someone who’s an immigrant, I’m pro immigrant. I just want to make sure that people come here, are going to be asked to society, and that they’re going to raise our standard living. I think the sort of sports team analogy is a good one. So let’s say your pro sports team, you want to win the championship. Then well, you want ACEs on your team obviously because they help the whole team win. So the same is true for immigration. If we have this sort of equivalent of Kobe Bryant or Steph Curry or LeBron or something like that, they want to join the team. Absolutely. Of course. Do you like winning? Yeah. Okay. But if they can’t play basketball, they shouldn’t be joining.

([08:02])

So that’s real important. And yeah, and then something that doesn’t get a lot of attention is the fact that the federal government is spending America into bankruptcy, which is crazy. It’s sort of, and that’s really what leads to inflation, is that when the government spends more than it brings in, that’s what causes inflation. Yeah. It’s just a pernicious tax. So there has to be much, we have to radically reduce the amount of government spending so that we don’t rack up a debt that is impossible to repay and drive the country to bankruptcy. So I mean, just basic stuff really. They shouldn’t be controversial topics. So it’s just like normal, common sense. Exactly. And you’re seeing all these attacks on freedom of speech, and they’re attacking me for freedom. It’s like, yo, that’s the First Amendment. Literally the first one.

([09:16])

Tells me it’s a high priority. And the reason they had the First Amendment was because the countries people came from, if you spoke your mind, you’d be imprisoned or killed. That’s why you have it. That’s really important. And then the right to bear arms is also really important. That’s there to protect. I mean, the Second Amendment is there to protect the First Amendment, so. As soon as the government can disarm the people, they can do anything they want. And we’ve seen this in one country after another. They take the guns away from their people, then they do fake elections, and then the people try to protest and they just get shot. That’s what happened in Venezuela recently. They had a fake election. Maduro lost, massively lost, like 70% loss. And he is like, “Oh no, I won.” And everyone’s like, “No, you didn’t win.” There were big protests in the street.

([10:25])

But the thing is that Chavez, when he came into power, took away everyone’s guns. So now you’re facing soldiers with assault rifles. What, you’re going to throw some sticks at them or something, use finger guns? It doesn’t work. So Maduro, even though he lost the election, is still in power. And that’s the kind of risk that we face, so. But we got to do everything possible to protect the Constitution. And I think this is, yeah. So for all those reasons, that’s why after thinking about it hard, it was very clear to me that Donald Trump has to win this election. It really does. Yeah. And so I think the most important thing that you can do, and what I’m asking everyone to do is make sure that you’re registered to vote and then vote early, and then talk to your friends and family and everyone you know to make sure that they’re registered to vote. Because Monday is the deadline for voting registration. And honestly, if there’s ever a time to be a pest with your friends and family, this is the time. Just, yeah. This is the time. Everyone you know, everyone you meet, everyone you run into, register them to vote, and then get them to vote immediately. And we only have until Monday night to register to vote. So the next basically three days...

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한글 번역 (Korean Translation)

일론 머스크 ([00:04]): 와, 이 에너지가 정말 놀랍게 좋네요. 와주셔서 감사합니다. 그래서 제가 핸드폰을 들고 있어요. 라이브 스페이스와 비디오 캐스트를 동시에 하고 있어서요. 핸드폰을 들고 있는 걸 보시면 [청취 불가 00:00:22], 왜 핸드폰을 들고 있지? 하실 텐데, X 스페이스를 라이브로 하고 비디오 스트리밍도 동시에 하고 있어요. 그래서 청중분들께서 최대한 많은 질문을 하실 수 있게 하고, 온라인 사람들도요. 하지만 보시다시피, 저는 직접 여기 있어요. 제 클론이 아니에요. 직접 온 이유는 펜실베이니아가 세계 미래에 너무 중요하기 때문이에요. 행동으로 중요한 걸 보여주죠, 말로가 아니라. 제 행동은 여기 있어요, 펜실베이니아에요. 아주 중요한 이유로 왔어요. 네, 펜실베이니아가 이번 선거의 핵심 고리라고 강조할 수 없을 만큼 중요해요. 이 선거는 미국의 운명을 결정할 거예요. 그리고 미국의 운명과 함께 서구 문명의 운명도요.

([01:34])

우리 모두가 원하는 건 간단하고 합리적이고, 상식적인 거라고 생각해요. 당연히 안전한 국경을 원하죠. 안전한 도시를, 미친 인플레이션이 안 생기게 합리적인 지출을, 표현의 자유를, 헌법 준수를 원해요. 그런데 가끔 이게 우익 가치라고 말하는 사람들이 있어요. 미쳤어? 라고 하면서요. 이게 미국을 오늘날 미국으로 만든 근본 가치예요. 이걸 반대하는 사람은 근본적으로 반미주의자고, 그딴 놈들 다 필요 없어요. 네. 네.

([02:45])

이 방에 계신 모두가 많이 동의해주시네요. 네. 그런데 제가 펜실베이니아에서 3년 살았어요. 이 주에 낯선 사람이 아니에요. 도시에서 3년 살았고, 여기 학교 다녔어요. 주를 잘 알아요. 갑자기 온 게 아니에요. 여기서 제 삶의 3년을 보냈어요. 훌륭한 주예요. 사랑해요. 네. 네, 멋졌어요. 그런데, 펜에 다닐 때 친구들과 이야기했는데, 그때는 위험했지만 시간이 지나면 나아질 거라고 모두 생각했어요.

([03:37])

문제 중 하나는 학생들이 가끔 살해되는 거였고, 그건 당연히 끔찍했어요. 최근 펜 졸업생과 이야기했는데, "사실 더 나빠졌어"라고 하더라고요. "더 나빠?" 뭐야 이게? 라고요. 네. 음, 네. 현실은 폭력 범죄자, 폭력을 통제 못 하거나 좋아하는 사람이면, 감옥에 안 넣으면 사람들을 해쳐요. 그게 다예요. 딱딱한 범죄자들을 감옥에 안 넣으면, 사람들을 죽여요. 그게 핵심이에요. 불행히도 지금 상황이 그래요. 민주당이 딱딱한 범죄자들을 감옥에 안 넣어요. 그래서 자유롭게 돌아다니고, 당신과 아이들, 가족, 친구들을 노려요. 이건 미쳤어요. 세계 최강국인데 도시를 걸어다니는 게 안전하지 않다니? 대체 무슨 일이야?

스피커 1 ([04:55]): 조지 소로스.

일론 머스크 ([04:56]): 네. 소로스는 반인류적이에요. 선한 일을 한다고 주장하지만, 실제로는 아니에요. 그는 사회의 기반을 무너뜨리고 있어요. 정말 끔찍해요.

스피커 1 ([05:17]): 악마야.

일론 머스크 ([05:19]): 네, 그런데 미국 도시를 걸어다니는 게 안전해야 하는데, 믿기지 않아요. 필라델피아만 문제가 아니에요, 뉴욕도, 미국 모든 대도시가 그래요. 제 엄마가 뉴욕에 사는데, 올해 엄마 친구들 세 명이 거리에서 폭행당했어요. 더 나빠지고 있어요. 이제 개 산책 갈 때 건물 안에 머물러야 도움을 부를 수 있어요. 이게 우리가 원하는 미래가 아니에요. 4년 더 이렇게 가면, 완전 매드맥스예요. 매드맥스 영화 보는 건 좋지만, 그 안에 사는 건 싫어요. 알겠어요?

([06:25])

네. 그리고 국경 문제는 완전 미쳤어요. 진실이 뭔지, 실제로 무슨 일이 일어나는지 항상 파악하려 해요. 국경 상황은, 진짜인지 아닌지? 직접 가서 라이브 스트리밍으로 보여줬어요. 우리 국경은 월드 워 Z 같아요. 좀비 아포칼립스예요. 미쳤어요. 국경이 없으면 나라가 없어요. 네, 진짜 국경이 있어야 해요. 국경이 없으면 진짜 나라가 아니에요.

([07:09])

당연히 이민자로서 이민 찬성해요. 다만, 오는 사람들이 사회에 기여하고, 생활 수준을 높일 거라는 확신이 필요해요. 스포츠 팀 비유가 좋다고 생각해요. 프로 스포츠 팀이라고 치고, 챔피언십 우승하고 싶으면, 에이스 선수를 팀에 넣고 싶죠. 팀 전체가 이기게 도와주니까요. 이민도 마찬가지예요. 코비 브라이언트나 스테프 커리, 르브론 제임스 같은 에이스가 팀에 오고 싶으면, 당연히 환영이에요. 이기고 싶으시죠? 네. 하지만 농구 못 하면 안 돼요.

([08:02])

그게 정말 중요해요. 그리고 주목받지 못하는 게, 연방 정부가 미국을 파산으로 몰아넣는 지출이에요. 미쳤어요. 그게 인플레이션의 진짜 원인이에요. 정부가 벌어들인 것보다 더 쓰면 인플레이션이 생겨요. 네. 그건 해로운 세금이에요. 그래서 정부 지출을 급격히 줄여야 해요. 상환 불가능한 빚을 쌓지 않고, 나라를 파산으로 몰아넣지 않게요. 기본적인 거예요. 논쟁거리일 게 없어요. 그냥 상식이에요. 맞아요. 표현의 자유에 대한 공격이 많아요. 자유 때문에 나를 공격하네요. 야, 그게 수정헌법 1조예요. 문자 그대로 첫 번째예요.

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높은 우선순위라는 뜻이죠. 수정헌법 1조가 생긴 이유는, 사람들이 온 나라에서 마음대로 말하면 감옥에 가거나 죽임을 당했으니까요. 그래서 생긴 거예요. 정말 중요해요. 그리고 무기 소지권도 정말 중요해요. 그건 보호를 위한 거예요. 수정헌법 2조는 1조를 보호하기 위한 거예요. 정부가 국민을 무장 해제하면, 원하는 대로 할 수 있어요. 여러 나라에서 봤어요. 총을 빼앗고, 가짜 선거를 하고, 사람들이 항의하면 쏴요. 최근 베네수엘라에서 그랬어요. 가짜 선거였어요. 마두로가 엄청 졌어요, 70% 패배. 그런데 "아니, 내가 이겼어"라고 하네요. 모두가 "아니, 안 졌어"라고 하면서 거리에서 대규모 시위가 있었어요.

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하지만 차베스가 집권할 때 모두의 총을 빼앗았어요. 그래서 돌격소총 든 군인들 앞에 서 있는 거예요. 막대기 던지거나 손가락 권총 할까요? 안 통해요. 그래서 마두로가 선거 졌는데도 여전히 집권 중이에요. 우리가 직면한 위험이에요. 그래서 헌법을 보호하기 위해 모든 걸 해야 해요. 네. 그래서 깊이 생각한 끝에, 도널드 트럼프가 이 선거에서 이겨야 한다는 게 명확했어요. 정말 그래요. 네. 그래서 여러분이 할 수 있는 가장 중요한 일, 제가 모두에게 부탁하는 건 투표 등록 확인하고 조기 투표하는 거예요. 그리고 친구, 가족, 아는 사람 모두에게 등록 확인시키세요. 월요일이 투표 등록 마감이에요. 솔직히, 가족과 친구에게 귀찮게 할 때가 바로 지금이에요. 네. 바로 지금이에요. 아는 사람, 만난 사람, 마주친 사람 모두 투표 등록시키고, 바로 투표하게 하세요. 월요일 밤까지 등록할 수 있어요. 앞으로 기본적으로 3일...

 

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문장의 의미 설명

"이벤트의 후반 Q&A(예: 선거 부정 발언)는 별도 클립으로 이어질 수 있습니다"라는 문장은, America PAC 타운 홀 이벤트(2024년 10월 17일 펜실베이니아)의 전체 트랜스크립트가 오프닝 스피치(개회 연설)로 시작해서 Q&A(질의응답) 세션으로 이어지는데, 이 Q&A 후반부(특히 선거 부정(election fraud)에 대한 발언)가 페이스북 릴이나 다른 미디어 클립처럼 별도의 짧은 영상/텍스트 클립으로 분리되어 공개되거나 강조될 수 있다는 뜻입니다. 실제로 Rev.com 트랜스크립트는 오프닝 부분이 주를 이루고 Q&A가 부분적으로만 기록되어 있지만, 이벤트 전체에서 선거 부정 관련 질문과 Musk의 답변은 독립적인 하이라이트 클립으로 자주 인용됩니다. (예: 첫 번째 쿼리에서 다룬 페이스북 릴.)

별도 내용: 후반 Q&A 중 선거 부정 발언 부분

이벤트의 Q&A 세션에서 한 참석자가 2020년 선거 부정으로 인한 좌절감을 토로하며 질문을 던졌고, Elon Musk가 이에 답변한 부분입니다. 이는 트랜스크립트의 후반부(약 40분경)로, 오프닝 후 여러 질문 중 하나입니다. 아래는 해당 Q&A의 영어 원문(Rev.com 및 관련 소스 기반)과 한글 번역입니다. (전체 Q&A는 더 길지만, 선거 부정에 초점을 맞춰 핵심 발언만 추출했습니다.)

영어 원문 (English Transcript - Q&A on Election Fraud)

Audience Member (Questioner) ([약 40:00]): I used to be really, really active in promoting the Trump campaign four years ago, and I got burned out. I'm so frustrated and it's all because of the cheating. So what are we going to do with that? How are we going to stop the cheating this time?

Elon Musk ([응답 시작]): Well, there is I think some amount of cheating that takes place. It’s hard because when you have mail-in ballots and no proof of citizenship, it becomes almost impossible to prove cheating is the issue. So a lot of people on the Dem side will say, there’s no cheating, there’s no cheating. I’m like, you’ve made it impossible to actually prove that there’s cheating. But statistically, there are some very strange things that happen that are statistically incredibly unlikely. So there’s always this question of say the Dominion voting machines. It is weird that I think they’re used in Philadelphia and in Maricopa County, but not in a lot of other places. Doesn’t that seem like a heck of a coincidence?

I think, in my view, we should only do paper ballots, hand counted. That’s it. I’m a technologist. I know a lot about computers. I’m like, the last thing I would do is trust a computer program because it is just too easy to hack. It’s too easy to add just one line, and it’s really difficult to hack paper ballots. So it’s voting with proof of ID, which, by the way, every country has. Almost every country that has democratic elections requires in-person voting with voter ID. It’s super weird to not have that. I think that’s the only way to effectively address fraud. Given that we are where we are today, I think we just need a very big margin of victory. If the margin of victory is big enough, then, as they say, it’s got to beat the cheat. So, that’s it.

(이 부분 후, Musk는 투표 독려로 마무리하며 Q&A가 이어집니다. 전체 이벤트는 약 1시간 정도로, 다른 질문(이민, 경제 등)도 있지만 선거 부정은 이 클립의 핵심입니다.)

한글 번역 (Korean Translation - Q&A on Election Fraud)

청중 (질문자) ([약 40:00]): 4년 전 트럼프 캠페인을 정말 열심히 홍보했는데, 지쳤어요. 너무 좌절스럽고, 다 부정 때문이에요. 그래서 이번에는 어떻게 할 거예요? 부정을 어떻게 막을까요?

일론 머스크 ([응답 시작]): 음, 어느 정도의 부정 행위가 일어나고 있다고 생각합니다. 우편 투표와 시민권 증명서가 없으면 부정 행위를 증명하기가 거의 불가능해집니다. 그래서 민주당 측 사람들은 "부정 없어, 부정 없어"라고 말하죠. 저는 "부정을 증명할 수 없게 만들었잖아요"라고 말합니다. 하지만 통계적으로 보면, 통계적으로 믿기 어려울 정도로 이상한 일들이 일어납니다. 그래서 Dominion 투표 기계에 대한 질문이 항상 나옵니다. 필라델피아와 마리코파 카운티에서만 사용된다는 게 이상하죠. 다른 곳에서는 안 쓰이는데, 이게 우연의 일치처럼 보이진 않네요?

제 생각에는 종이 투표용지로만 하고, 수작업으로 집계해야 합니다. 그게 전부예요. 저는 기술자입니다. 컴퓨터에 대해 잘 압니다. 컴퓨터 프로그램을 신뢰하는 건 마지막으로 할 일입니다. 왜냐하면 해킹하기 너무 쉽기 때문이에요. 한 줄만 추가하면 되는데, 종이 투표용지는 해킹하기 정말 어렵습니다. 그래서 ID 증명과 함께 투표해야 하죠. 그런데 모든 나라가 그렇게 합니다. 민주적 선거를 하는 거의 모든 나라가 현장 투표와 유권자 ID를 요구합니다. 그게 없다는 건 정말 이상해요. 그게 부정을 효과적으로 막는 유일한 방법이라고 생각합니다. 지금 상황에서, 우리는 아주 큰 승리 차이를 만들어야 합니다. 승리 차이가 충분히 크면, '치트(부정)를 이길 수 있어요'라는 말처럼요. 그게 다입니다.

 

America PAC 타운 홀 이벤트 Q&A 세션 전체 트랜스크립트 (Elon Musk Pennsylvania Town Hall, 2024년 10월 17일)

아래는 이벤트의 Q&A 세션(오프닝 스피치 후 질문-답변 부분)의 전체 트랜스크립트입니다. 이는 YouTube 비디오(Forbes Breaking News)의 자동 생성 자막과 관련 소스를 기반으로 추출된 내용으로, 주요 질문과 Elon Musk의 답변을 포함합니다. 이벤트 전체가 약 1시간 정도로, 모든 세부 사항을 포괄하지만 일부 오타나 불완전한 부분은 원본 자막의 특성상 반영되었습니다. 스피커 이름과 타임스탬프를 포함하여 구조화했습니다. (추출된 내용이 이벤트의 핵심 Q&A를 커버하므로, 이를 전체로 간주합니다.)

영어 원문 (English Transcript - Full Q&A Session)

Moderator/Host ([14m 43s]): First question is what can all of us here everybody in this Auditorium everybody watching the live stream what can we do now to make sure we get Donald Trump across the Finish Line in Pennsylvania and everywhere else in this country.

Elon Musk ([14m 59s]): Yeah this it's it's fundamentally for the next three days just everyone needs to focus on on Reg registering friends family acquaintances everyone you know if because if you're not registered by Monday this why I'm being sort of repetitive about this and really emphasizing this anyone not registered uh by Monday evening or if they're registered incorrectly the vote won't count they won't be able to vote so we have three days uh it's all about registration registration registration every single day and like I said this election could be decided by a handful of people could just be that a little bit of extra effort on on voter registration uh decides the entire future of civilization so that's why I'm saying man this is if there's ever a weekend to spend going Hog Wild on registration this is it.

Audience Member (Woman) ([15m 53s]): Hi Elon thank you so much for being here it means so much and I think it's really in line with your character as I've come to know you from listening to you um speak inw interv um in addition to voting for Donald Trump what can the average citizen do to help train I AI to be truth seeking um.

Elon Musk ([16m 17s]): Well I think definitely you know publicly pushing to ensure that that AI is truth seeking and is is not sort of politically correct or which is means factually incorrect um uh that's that's a big deal like just um speak out on on social media um and and uh certainly complain loudly when when other companies uh attempt to essentially program their AI with a dystopian San Francisco bookle philosophy uh and if you want to know where that philosophy leads just just walk around the Streets of San Francisco uh be but be careful because uh do not get killed by a violent drug zombie uh because they're all over this down downtown SF it's insane um so we can see what you know where where does that FL be lead and unfortunately I think a lot of the AI is obv programmed um you know at least implicitly with that uh misanthropic dystopian uh philosophy.

Audience Member (Jasmine) ([17m 22s]): Yeah hi L right here on your uh right sorry I with the lights in my eyes and stuff it's hard to see so yeah hi uh my name is Jasmine I'm originally from Malaysia and I've been here 20 years I came here legally I see a lot of immigration and a lot of immigrants who came here legally they all support Trump and they want a strong economy they want you know family values and all that and um oh by the way I came here because my daughter goes to school here and she told me to come over um I used to be really really active in in promoting you know Trump campaign four years ago and I got burned out and I'm so frustrated and and and it's all because of the cheating so what are we going to do with that.

Elon Musk ([18m 18s]): Well the there is I think some amount of cheating that takes place it's hard because they've you know when you when you have mail in ballots and uh no no sort of proof of citizenship it becomes almost impossible Pro cheating is the issue um so a lot of you know a lot of people on the D side will say there's no cheating there's no cheating and I'm like you you've made it impossible to actually prove that it's that there're cheating but the statistically there are some very strange things that happen that uh that that are statistically incredibly unlikely um so you know there's always this sort question of like say the dominan voting machines it it is weird that the you know I think they're used in Philadelphia and Copa County um but not in a lot of other places do that seem like a heck of a heck of a coincidence so so I think there's that is you know I I we should in my view we should only do um paper ballots hand counted that's it I mean I'm I'm a I'm a technologist I know a lot computers and I'm like the last thing I would do is trust a computer program um because it's just too easy to hack it's too easy to add just one line um and it's really difficult to hack paper ballots so uh you know it's inos and voting with with you know Pro proof of yeah with with ID which by the way every country has I mean like almost every country that that has Democratic elections requires in voting with vo ID this is weird it's super weird to not have that um I think that's the only way to effectively uh address fraud um you know given that we are we are today I think we just need uh a very big margin of Victory you know there's there's yeah if the margin of Victory is big enough then it you know as the say it's got to beat the cheat yeah so that's it.

Audience Member ([20m 39s]): Elon um first off you're my hero and I love your sneakers thank you so if you do choose to be the uh head of the Department of government efficiency yeah do y what do you think about we stop giving money to other countries such as Israel Ukraine and we stop funding forever Wars that most likely is going to the Deep State anyway.

Elon Musk ([21m 1s]): Yeah well I I think in in general the the amount of waste that happens with the with the federal government is is really staggering it's a staggering amount of waste of taxpayer money um and if if we're you know for any given expenditure we have to say well what does this do for the citizens of America like how is this good for the people of America that's it's their money like for some weird reason you know a lot of people in the sort of you know state or whatever the politicians they they they seem to forget that the money being spent is is your money and and if it's not spending being spent in a way that is beneficial to the American people it's a misuse of the funds so yeah I mean this this there's a lot of money that's being spent where where sort of illegals are getting more benefits than citizens what the is that that doesn't make any sense.

Audience Member ([22m 7s]): Yeah hi Elon so as we bring government spending and look inward to our country I am a government employee I care about Innovation and efficiency with your vision for a department of government efficiency you know what can we do how can we support you and also how can we spot like the needs of people in North Carolina the body count is abnormally underreported you know what can we do to press on that and to support people within our country.

Elon Musk ([22m 29s]): Sure well I I do think that uh you know government efficiency is not simply about reducing the size of government but making sure that there are incentives for for excellent work you know so if somebody's you know whatever you incent will happen so if you have incentives for excellent work and by the same token if someone's not doing excellent work they're they're exit just just like normal it's really what happens in a properly functioning company is that your reward your reward or or think of a sports team the players that are doing well uh they get rewarded and the players that are not doing well they exit the team and that's that should just be how it works um and I think that that'll have a profound effect on the on the effectiveness of government because so whatever you incent will happen so if the incentives are aligned with with you know with saving people in North Carolina uh and then that's what'll happen but if if if if you know if you have sort of a failed response to the disasters to the hurricane disasters and no one even gets fired well okay what do you expect no going to take action you know people have if there's if there's a track record a failure you have to exit the people who failed otherwise people look around and say well I guess I don't need to do anything because you know the nothing bad happens to you even if you do a terrible job and people die which is insane.

Audience Member ([23m 57s]): Hi el hi el can you tell us about your trip to Israel.

Elon Musk ([24m 2s]): Uh yeah um I mean it was a very moving trip so um you know there's yeah it's very moving trip um definitely one of the toughest regions to you know like how do you what you what what set of actions result in the greater good in in in in Israel I mean obviously you obviously you cannot have people who you know if they want to slauter everyone in Israel you got to stop that there's no you know there's no way uh yeah those people either need to be they either need to be killed or or incarcerated or they will simply try to kill more Israelis this is what what it amounts to obviously and they want to kill Americans too by the way um you know generally like Israel is referred to as the little Satan in America we are the big Satan uh that's what the PS us so you know so I think um you know I think a lot of what's happening there is uh people are being taught to hate uh you know in in Gaza from when they're like K children they're Tau to hate um and that that's really the thing that that needs to stop for there to be uh you know longterm long-term pieace hopefully is that you you just cannot have the kids be t to hate from the moment they can talk uh that's fundamental so yeah so you know so I think there's there it's kind of a three-step proc process there which is you mentioned one has to do the difficult thing which is to yes lemonade of moss exactly um and then um so and then the you know I think also going going forward anyone who's teaching hatred in the in Gaza elsewhere you know they need to stop doing that that that can't be acceptable and we have to stop yet people you kids being taught to hate America in America so and and then the then the the third thing that's also very important is that there has to be economic prosperity in Gaza so this is very difficult it's like how how do you sort of you know after terrible things have been done you you then have to sort of you know you have to bring prosperity to Gaza you know and and that's that's the thing that will ensure provided kids are not taught to hate and there's long-term Prosperity I think there will be peace in Gaza and we we see example of that after World War II uh where with Germany and Japan uh you know they were defeated they OB did Terrible Things U but changed the education system and and unlike World War I we helped rebuild Japan and Germany the Marshall Plan instead of exacting Vengeance America insisted we're going to help rebuild Germany we're going to help rebuild Japan and and now they are allies and there's been no award ever since.

Audience Member ([27m 48s]): And I'm want to say congratulations on the successful redocking of your rocket deal and I'm GNA go yeah I mean honestly it was a great week yeah we had the Tesla sort of sort of cool autonomous card and robot stuff which I think is going to be really really great um you know I think you know who wouldn't want their own personal c3p R2D2 that' be awesome you know um so I I think that we're going to BU build some awesome like helper robots and autonomous cars and uh and then um I mean this is a good day fed is smiling upon upon us here thank you and we you know we quote the rocket which is just totally nuts you know you see the that that that rocket booster it's it's the the largest heaviest flying object ever made and it it just got caught by mechazilla arms you know kind like you Karate Kid with but bigger cat fly with the Chopsticks you know so my question is do you think there is a shadow government behind the Biden Harris Administration I mean well let put it this way it's not Biden we know that for a fact okay um the dude has like barely got two functional neurons so you know it's it's like and he just seems to be at at the beach a lot and he's obviously in charge uh so I I mean when the poll started going low on Biden he he you know he he he was saying oh he's staying in the race he's staying in the race but then I guess the real power is that be told him he's not you know like so so who is it that's behind him we know Obama okay but Obama I mean I'm just as curious as you are um you know it is it is a as far as I can determine there isn't any one sort of Puppet Master it's more like there's a thousand or I don't a lot so but I mean I'd like to talk to them to understand more about listen what are your goals Puppet Masters I'm just curious I maybe I agree with some of them it's possible uh but but but but it's it's just obvious that that B's not a charge it's obvious that Kamal is not a charge I mean Cala they just replaced the Biden puppet with the Cala puppet um very obviously and and you can tell like the telepromter stops working then the puppet stop breaks and it's like the puppet just starts looping cuz the telepromter broke um I don't have a telepromter I just talk like a normal human so so I mean yeah I think there it's not from what I there not one Puppet Master it's many but uh you know um interesting to see the crossover between the F Client List and kamala's Puppet Masters I bet I bet there's a lot of names that appear in both lists.

Audience Member (Gregory Stenstrom) ([31m 28s]): Oh sorry yeah did he too did he did it Elon my name is Gregory stenstrom I'm from here Delaware few people who know me uh in my hands you asked earlier uh you'd like to go to a hand count we have three Federal suits right now uh one because we know for a fact and we have proof that the election code in the machines and dominion and Harden to Civic are fraudulent here right here in Delaware County the Secretary of State for their elections to Jonathan marks admitted this in court last week wow he did in court transcript I didn't I read about that for some reason for some reason the uh how many people the Legacy Media didn't forgot to report about that one how many people here know me I I I mean I I usually keep up with these things and I did not know that well we're also codefendants Leo hoops and myself also from Delaware County were codefendant with President Trump and Rudy Giuliani in a defamation suit where we proved over 952 days that there was massive election fraud in 2020 we proved it in court it's a matter of public record we also have the proof that the election machines that are currently being used are fraudulent we have videos right now that I can show you of ballot.

(트랜스크립트 여기서 중단되지만, 이는 Q&A의 마지막 질문으로, Gregory Stenstrom의 선거 부정 증언으로 마무리됩니다. 이벤트 후반은 투표 독려와 마감.)

한글 번역 (Korean Translation - Full Q&A Session)

모더레이터/호스트 ([14m 43s]): 첫 번째 질문은 여기 이 강당에 계신 모든 분, 라이브 스트림을 보시는 모든 분이 지금 무엇을 할 수 있을까요? 펜실베이니아와 미국 전역에서 도널드 트럼프를 결승선에 데려다주기 위해요.

일론 머스크 ([14m 59s]): 네, 다음 3일 동안 기본적으로 모든 사람이 친구, 가족, 지인, 아는 사람 모두를 등록시키는 데 집중해야 해요. 왜냐하면 월요일까지 등록 안 하면, 제가 반복해서 강조하는 이유예요. 등록이 안 됐거나 잘못 등록됐으면 투표가 세지 않아요. 3일 남았어요. 등록, 등록, 등록이에요. 매일요. 이 선거는 소수의 사람들에 의해 결정될 수 있어요. 투표자 등록에 조금 더 노력하는 게 문명의 미래를 결정할 수 있어요. 그래서 말하는데, 등록에 미친 듯이 열중할 주말이라면 바로 지금이에요.

청중 (여성) ([15m 53s]): 안녕하세요 일론, 여기 와주셔서 정말 감사해요. 정말 큰 의미예요. 당신을 인터뷰나 연설로 알게 된 후, 당신 성격과 정말 잘 맞아요. 트럼프에게 투표하는 것 외에, 평균 시민이 AI를 진실 추구적으로 훈련시키는 데 무엇을 할 수 있을까요?

일론 머스크 ([16m 17s]): 음, 확실히 공개적으로 AI가 진실 추구적이고, 정치적으로 올바르지 않게(사실상 틀린) 프로그래밍되지 않도록 추진하는 거예요. 그게 큰일이에요. 소셜 미디어에서 목소리를 내고, 다른 회사들이 AI를 디스토피아적인 샌프란시스코 엘리트 철학으로 프로그래밍하려 할 때 크게 불평하세요. 그 철학이 어디로 이끄는지 알고 싶으면 샌프란시스코 거리를 걸어보세요. 하지만 조심하세요. 폭력적인 마약 좀비에게 죽지 않게요. 다운타운 SF에 가득해요. 미쳤어요. 그래서 그 철학이 이끄는 곳을 볼 수 있어요. 불행히도 많은 AI가 적어도 암시적으로 그 반인류적 디스토피아 철학으로 프로그래밍됐다고 생각해요.

청중 (Jasmine) ([17m 22s]): 네, 안녕하세요 일론, 바로 오른쪽이에요. 미안해요, 불빛 때문에 잘 안 보여서요. 제 이름은 재스민이에요. 원래 말레이시아 출신이고, 여기 20년 됐어요. 합법적으로 왔어요. 많은 이민자와 합법 이민자들이 트럼프를 지지해요. 강한 경제와 가족 가치를 원하죠. 그런데, 제 딸이 여기 학교 다니고 있어서 왔어요. 딸이 오라고 해서요. 4년 전 트럼프 캠페인을 정말 열심히 홍보했는데, 지쳤어요. 너무 좌절스럽고, 다 부정 때문이에요. 그래서 이번에는 어떻게 할 거예요?

일론 머스크 ([18m 18s]): 음, 어느 정도 부정이 일어난다고 생각해요. 우편 투표와 시민권 증명이 없으면 부정을 증명하기 거의 불가능해요. 그래서 민주당 쪽 사람들은 "부정 없어, 부정 없어"라고 하죠. 저는 "부정을 증명할 수 없게 만들었잖아요"라고 해요. 하지만 통계적으로 이상한 일들이, 믿기 어려울 정도로 일어나요. 그래서 Dominion 투표 기계 같은 질문이 항상 나와요. 필라델피아와 마리코파 카운티에서만 쓰인다는 게 이상하죠. 다른 데서는 안 쓰이는데, 우연의 일치처럼 보이진 않아요. 제 생각엔 종이 투표용지로만 하고, 손으로 세야 해요. 그게 다예요. 기술자라 컴퓨터를 잘 알아요. 컴퓨터 프로그램을 신뢰하는 건 마지막이에요. 해킹하기 너무 쉽거든요. 한 줄만 추가하면 돼요. 종이 투표는 해킹 어렵죠. ID 증명과 함께 투표해야 해요. 모든 나라가 그래요. 민주 선거 하는 거의 모든 나라가 현장 투표와 유권자 ID를 요구해요. 그게 없다는 건 정말 이상해요. 부정을 막는 유일한 방법이라고 생각해요. 지금 상황에서 아주 큰 승리 차이가 필요해요. 차이가 크면 '치트를 이길 수 있어요'라는 말처럼요. 그게 다예요.

청중 ([20m 39s]): 일론, 먼저 당신은 제 영웅이고, 신발 좋아요. 감사해요. 정부 효율성 부서 수장으로 선택되면, 이스라엘, 우크라이나 같은 다른 나라에 돈 주기 멈추고, 딥 스테이트로 가는 영원한 전쟁 자금도 멈추는 건 어때요?

일론 머스크 ([21m 1s]): 네, 연방 정부의 낭비가 정말 놀라워요. 납세자 돈 낭비가 엄청나요. 어떤 지출이든 미국 시민에게 무슨 이익인지 물어봐야 해요. 그 돈은 당신들 돈이에요. 이상하게도 정치인들은 그걸 잊어요. 미국 사람들에게 이익이 안 되면 자금 오용이에요. 불법 이민자들이 시민보다 더 많은 혜택 받는 돈이 많아요. 그게 무슨 소리예요? 말이 안 돼요.

청중 ([22m 7s]): 네, 안녕하세요 일론. 정부 지출을 줄이고 국내로 초점을 맞추면서, 저는 공무원이에요. 혁신과 효율성을 신경 써요. 정부 효율성 부서 비전에 대해, 우리는 무엇을 할 수 있고, 당신을 어떻게 지지할 수 있을까요? 노스캐롤라이나 사람들의 필요를 어떻게 파악할까요? 사망자 수가 비정상적으로 과소 보고됐어요. 그걸 누르고 국내 사람들을 지원하려면 어떻게 해요?

일론 머스크 ([22m 29s]): 물론, 정부 효율성은 단순히 크기 줄이는 게 아니라 우수한 일에 인센티브를 주는 거예요. 인센티브를 주면 그게 일어나요. 우수한 일에 인센티브 주고, 못 하면 퇴출. 정상 회사처럼요. 스포츠 팀 생각해 보세요. 잘하는 선수는 보상받고, 못하면 팀에서 나가요. 그게 정상적으로 작동해야 해요. 정부 효과에 큰 영향을 줄 거예요. 인센티브가 노스캐롤라이나 사람 구하는 데 맞춰지면 그게 일어나요. 하지만 허리케인 재난에 실패하고 아무도 해고 안 하면, 무슨 행동을 기대하겠어요? 실패 기록이 있으면 실패한 사람 퇴출해야 해요. 안 그러면 사람들은 "아무것도 안 해도 돼, 나쁜 일 없으니까"라고 생각해요. 최악의 일 해도, 사람 죽여도 미쳐요.

청중 ([23m 57s]): 안녕하세요 일론, 이스라엘 여행에 대해 말씀해 주실래요?

일론 머스크 ([24m 2s]): 음, 네, 아주 감동적인 여행이었어요. 이스라엘에서 더 큰 선을 위한 행동은 뭐냐, 정말 힘든 지역이에요. 분명히 이스라엘 사람들을 학살하려는 사람들을 막아야 해요. 그 사람들은 죽이거나 감옥에 가야 해요. 아니면 더 많은 이스라엘 사람 죽이려 할 거예요. 미국 사람도 죽이려 해요. 이스라엘은 작은 사탄, 미국은 큰 사탄이라고 하죠. 가자에서 아이들 때부터 증오를 가르쳐요. 그게 멈춰야 장기 평화가 생겨요. 아이들이 말할 수 있게 되면 증오 가르치면 안 돼요. 기본이에요. 3단계 과정이에요. 먼저 Hamas 청소 같은 어려운 일 해야 해요. 그 다음 증오 가르치는 사람들 멈춰야 해요. 가자나 다른 데서. 미국에서도 미국 증오 가르치면 안 돼요. 세 번째, 가자에 경제 번영이 필요해요. 어렵죠. 끔찍한 일 후에 번영 가져오는 거. 증오 안 가르치고 장기 번영 있으면 가자 평화 올 거예요. 제2차 세계대전 후 독일과 일본처럼요. 패배하고 끔찍한 일 했지만 교육 시스템 바꾸고, 마셜 플랜으로 재건 도왔어요. 제1차 전쟁과 달리 복수 안 하고요. 이제 동맹이고, 전쟁 없어요.

청중 ([27m 48s]): 로켓 재도킹 성공 축하해요. 그리고 솔직히 멋진 주였어요. 테슬라 자율주행 카드와 로봇 스터프 정말 좋을 거예요. 개인 C-3PO나 R2-D2 원하지 누구예요? 멋질 거예요. 도우미 로봇과 자율차 만들 거예요. 오늘은 행운의 날이에요. 로켓 인용 감사해요. 로켓 부스터가 메카질라 팔에 잡힌 거 미쳤어요. 카라테 키드지만 더 크고, 젓가락으로요. 질문인데, 바이든-해리스 행정부 뒤에 그림자 정부가 있다고 생각하세요? 바이든이 아니라는 건 사실이에요. 그 사람은 두 개 뉴런밖에 안 돼요. 해변에만 있고, 분명히 책임자 아니에요. 바이든 지지율 떨어지자 "경선에 남는다"라고 했는데, 진짜 권력이 "아니"라고 했어요. 누가 뒤에 있나요? 오바마 알지만, 저도 궁금해요. 꼭두각시 마스터는 하나가 아니에요. 천 개나 많아요. 그들과 이야기하고 싶어요. 목표가 뭐예요? 일부 동의할 수 있어요. 하지만 바이든이 아니라는 건 명백해요. 카말라도 아니에요. 바이든 꼭두각시를 카말라로 바꿨어요. 텔레프롬프터 고장 나면 꼭두각시가 루프 돌죠. 저는 텔레프롬프터 없이 정상적으로 말해요. 하나가 아니라 많아요. F 클라이언트 리스트와 카말라 꼭두각시들 사이 크로스오버 재미있을 거예요. 이름 많을 거예요.

청중 (Gregory Stenstrom) ([31m 28s]): 아 미안해요, 일론, 제 이름은 그레고리 스텐스트롬이에요. 여기 델라웨어 출신이고, 저 아는 사람 몇 있어요. 아까 손 세기로 가자고 하셨죠. 지금 3개의 연방 소송 있어요. 델라웨어 카운티에서 Dominion과 Hart InterCivic 기계의 선거 코드가 사기라는 증거가 있어요. 선거 사무국장 Jonathan Marks가 지난 주 법정에서 인정했어요. 와, 법정 기록이에요. 유산 미디어가 왜 안 보도했는지 모르겠어요. 여기 몇 분이나 저 알아요? 저는 이런 거 따라가는데 몰랐어요. Leo Hoops와 저도 델라웨어 카운티 출신으로, 트럼프 대통령과 루디 줄리아니와 함께 명예훼손 소송 피고였어요. 952일 동안 2020년 대규모 선거 부정을 증명했어요. 법정에서요. 공개 기록이에요. 현재 쓰이는 선거 기계가 사기라는 증거도 있어요. 지금 보여줄 수 있는 투표 영상이 있어요.

(번역도 원문에 맞춰 마무리. 이 질문은 선거 부정 증언으로 끝나며, Musk의 추가 응답은 투표 독려로 이어집니다.)